Elliptical Structured Workouts?

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  • #20519
    ryanoelke
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    I’ve been recovering from a heel injury and I’m still doing elliptical mostly, working runs back in slowly. I’ve just been doing ‘foundation runs’ on the elliptical, but now I want to bring in some speed workouts. However, I’m not seeing how to take an 8020 run workout and convert it to an elliptical workout. My thought was to change the type of workout, so it syncs to that type on my Garmin, but there’s no elliptical option.

    Anyone figured out how to do this?

    #20520
    Charles
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    There are plans that include cross training on the elliptical on Training Peaks, but it sounds like you are looking for something more flexible.

    One option that I use for cross training (I don’t use an elliptical, but I do use an indoor bike and rower) you might try is copy a workout onto your Training Peaks calendar, then convert it to a maximum heart rate based workout – the workout builder will make the adjustments for you – and then reclassify and rename the workout. The workouts will sync to your watch.

    I set up these kind of activities utilizing the Sally Edwards Zones because I believe them to be better suited for mixing activities than the a threshold system. I’m currently doing this to add some volume to the 80/20 Run Faster plan. It’s not perfect, but I don’t have any races on my schedule so mixing hr and power TSS isn’t an issue.

    #20525
    ryanoelke
    Participant

    Thanks, Charles 🙂 yeah, HR based seems the easiest for the elliptical, especially at the moment.

    I still am not sure which workout to convert it to in TP so that it syncs with my Garmin watch, so it’ll prompt me with the structured workout. There’s no elliptical workout in TP, and the only options I think might work is ‘crosstrain’, ‘custom’, and ‘other’. I have no idea what the difference between the last two are as in TP they have the same icon. One includes gear options for bike or shoes, and the other only shoes.

    I don’t know if I choose custom or other, if that will prompt my Garmin if I selected something like ‘cardio’?

    It won’t be much of a problem once this injury is fully out as I’ll then use elliptical only for foundation workouts.

    #20526
    Charles
    Participant

    If I recall you are also using the GARMIN FR945.

    You can use Other on Training Peaks. Once you have saved and synced the workout you can find it on your watch: click Start – Options – Training Calendar, and Other will show up. When you click Do Workout you will be presented with a list of activities – Elliptical will appear on your list.

    #20527
    Bstarr
    Participant

    Just do a 20 minute FTP on the elliptical then use that data to set your zones. Easy Peasy.

    You can stop laughing now.

    #20528
    ryanoelke
    Participant

    @Charles I’m on a Garmin Fenix 5s. I couldn’t find the training calendar that way, but I also don’t have anything scheduled today. I’m going to try tomorrow as I have something on the calendar. The only way I can seem to see anything that might be the training calendar is one of the widgets says ‘no events’, so I assume that will be at least one way to get it.


    @Bstarr
    lol. The last time I did the elliptical a much older guy got on next time for like 5 minutes, and ramped up until he was wailing away on that sucker and causing people to stare lol. Maybe one day I’ll make people really wonder what the hell is going on 😉

    #20530
    Charles
    Participant

    There is a paid App in the connectIQ store that is compatible with your watch. The F3b Elliptical.

    #20531
    ryanoelke
    Participant

    @Charles Well, nothing popped up in ‘Events’ on my garmin today, and googling I couldn’t quite find any answer about how to see the training calendar on the Fenix 5s or to navigate to something like you mentioned. I might end up contacting Garmin.

    For the F3b Elliptical app, what would that do that the native elliptical workout in the watch doesn’t do? The page for the app didn’t really show much 😛

    If only TP had an elliptical workout! I’m kind of surprised they don’t.

    #20532
    Charles
    Participant

    I’m out of my depth on this. I don’t see much on Garmin or Training Peaks and I don’t use an Elliptical. For rowing I get a stroke count and nothing else beyond heart rate and time in zones – I just add a note for distance off of the machine for reference on Training Peaks. (My rower does not interface with Garmin or Training Peaks unlike Zwift and my bike).

    Best option would be to contact the app developer and see if it gives you what you need.

    #20533
    ryanoelke
    Participant

    Ok, so I have a workable solution, I think, for the moment, after chatting with Garmin. The only option is to convert the TP workout to ‘Strength’, which will sync up as a workout on the watch. I then have turned off ‘rep count’, so the only thing that is left is HR and time, which will be just fine. I haven’t seen if I could add a distance metric, but I’ve just been ballparking that based on what the machine reads.

    ‘Other’ and ‘Custom’ in TP doesn’t give any option on the watch as the only way to access the structured workouts is if they are synced to a type that exists in Garmin. So bizarre to me that TP doesn’t have at least a dummy ‘Cardio’ which would sync to Garmin, and that would cover a lot of workout types.

    I messaged TP as well to see if they had a solution I’m missing, and if nothing else, to be a squeaky wheel for adding a new workout type 😛

    I’ll try this on Thursday and report back!

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