Problems with zones in plan

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  • #20268
    cappelwsu
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    I’m scheduled to do RT41 today, and the description says:
    5:00 in Zone 1
    10:00 in Zone 2
    10:00 in Zone 3
    5:00 in Zone 1
    10:00 in Zone 3
    15:00 in Zone 1

    When the details are listed and sent to my Garmin, my warmup is zone 2-3, 2nd set is zone 3-5, and the tempo portion is zone 5. I’ve copied the tempo portion below. Why is there a discrepency between showing zone 3 and zone 5 in the description?
    Tempo

    10 min @ 169-178 bpm
    Zone 5
    Keep your pace close to the top end of your Zone 3 range in this segment.

    #20271
    Gerald
    Participant

    I’m assuming this is a training peaks workout, correct? If so, have you set your zones up there? If not, that’s where to start. The workout zones are pulling from there and not the Garnin zones.

    #20274
    cappelwsu
    Participant

    Thanks for the reply- yesd it’s in TP and my zones are set up there. My question is why the plan says zone 3 as the main set in 1 place and zone 3-5 in another place. Any ideas?

    #20276
    Charles
    Participant

    If you go into the workout builder you will find that workouts have a zone overlap of one bpm (or watt; etc.).

    If you work close to the transition point you may find that your total time in each zone will be incorrect for completed workouts. Even though I often work in that region, I just ignore it, it’s just the way that TP describes the workout. It is inconsequential.

    #20341
    jrmercado
    Participant

    How do you set the proper zones in training peaks? in trainingpeaks if you go to heart rate zones you can choose between lactate threshold or maximum heart rate. My LTH is 159 bpm then I noticed that there is an option (choose a method) of 80/20 is that the same as the 80/20 in this site? thanks in advance.

    #20349
    FatDad
    Participant

    Yes, Training Peaks and 8020 have worked together to embed 8020 in TP.

    See below for how to put 8020 zones into TP https://www.8020endurance.com/understanding-trainingpeaks-workout-plan/

    #20368
    trainingfortri
    Participant

    This is confusing me as well. The notes for my RSP tomorrow specifically say “Not to be confused with the Zone 5 running short interval (RSI), running speed play is done in Zone 4 with much shorter recoveries. If done in Zone 5, the athlete will fade.”

    It’s hard not to confuse it with Z5 if it says Zone 5b-Zone 5c by each interval? Which is it?

    Description
    5 minutes Z1, 20 minutes Z2, 10 x (1 minute Z4/2 minutes Z1) 5 minutes Z1
    Pre-activity Comments
    Before you begin your training, be sure to review the Resources section at http://www.8020endurance.com/resources. Particularly recommended are the articles titled “Understanding Your 80/20 Triathlon Plan” and “Intensity Guidelines for Triathlon.”
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    Not to be confused with the Zone 5 running short interval (RSI), running speed play is done in Zone 4 with much shorter recoveries. If done in Zone 5, the athlete will fade.
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    Workout Details

    Warm up
    5 min @ 09:32-12:05 min/mi
    Zone 1
    Warm up
    20 min @ 08:20-09:32 min/mi
    Zone 1-Zone 3
    Repeat 10 times
    Hard
    1 min @ 06:18-07:06 min/mi
    Zone 5b-Zone 5c
    Easy
    2 min @ 09:32-12:05 min/mi
    Zone 1
    Cool Down
    5 min @ 09:32-12:05 min/mi
    Zone 1

    #20369
    FatDad
    Participant

    Sometimes the notes, workout description and actual workout do not all match. It’s just a typo/ cut and paste error. Personally I just do the workout in Training Peaks as delivered to my watch.

    #20370
    trainingfortri
    Participant

    Ok, i’ll do that. but it seems sloppy if that’s the reason, given how much money is being paid collectively for all these plans

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