Charles

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    I’m not a coach.

    I look at the data, and have for a long time.  For me, it is not reliable.

    Training Readiness relies on a good estimate of VO2max, training activity, and HRV.  All of the data needs to be captured by your Garmin device.  I cross train on a bike with Zwift – the data is recorded on Zwift and Training Peaks, but it is not recognized on my Garmin watch (or Stryd). Also, because I periodize my training I expect to be slightly overtrained  at times to achieve some adaptation at the expense of detraining some other aspect of my fitness; by example, my VO2 is sacrificed to gain endurance or some other training objective.

    The metrics reflect a relatively short time frame, so they may be useful in identifying acute training overloads, but in my opinion it is chronic training overload which is harder to identify, and has a much more damaging effect on recovery – weeks, months, and possibly years.

    A better approach, from experience:

    1. Choose the correct level of plan based on your current fitness.  I have the time, but not the ability, to take the highest level plan; I will crash and burn very quickly.

    2. The 80/20 workouts provide a range of efforts. Use them. If you a dog tired, back off and work out at the lowest prescribed effort. At the other extreme, don’t go for a PB during a workout – harder than it seems – I had to learn not to look at time and distance during workouts because I would see that PB and go for it, only to find I was not recovered the next workout.  Trust the plan.

    3.  Injury is a game changer – stop. You are just going to lose time extending your recovery.

    If your hard determined to use the metrics you will need to discover how to use them. HRV for example needs to be recorded at the proper time to be meaningful. I haven’t seen anything but anecdotal reports that this is a good thing, but next to nothing on practical implementation of the information.

    in reply to: Strength Training #20740
    Charles
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    If you have laid in an Annual Training Plan on Training Peaks it will suggest strength phase workouts depending on where you are in your annual plan.  The resistance varies from very light up to 90% your one rep maximum depending on the strength objective for the period. Specifics are on the help center and are derived from Joe Friel’s Handbook.

    I’ve seen some recent reports on the general news about a study that suggests it all works, and you should choose what works best for your psychology. I’m skeptical, preferring to get uncomfortable when necessary.

    in reply to: Run power threshold not improving #20683
    Charles
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    The Stryd Power Center Energy Systems Sections advises specific workouts to keep your CP up to date, spaced out over a 90 day period of time. When you are using an 80/20 Training Plan you may not be doing a maximal effort at all of the intensities necessary to get the most accurate estimate of CP.

    A look at your Modeled Ability curve can give you some idea of whats happening, and a coach might be able advise you to adjust or ignore the plateau. I don’t know…

    in reply to: Should I slow down to stay within a zone? #20655
    Charles
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    I tried to paste the link to the Garmin website referenced which didn’t take. If you google “Tips for Erratic Heart Rate Data” you will find a full description.

    in reply to: Should I slow down to stay within a zone? #20653
    Charles
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    Anne,

    While I agree with you that the heart strap is the better choice, it does deliver more data than the watch itself, it is also susceptible to interference that can make it less reliable than wrist based (optical) measurements. Tips for Erratic Heart Rate Data

    “Always” is always a dangerous modifier, best applied to the word “depends”…

    Your comments on heart rate training are spot on with my experience. I’ve observed a lot of comments on the forum dissing heart rate training that I believe unfair, reflecting unfamiliarity with the devices leading people to conclude that power or pace is best when the correct answer is “it depends”. It is refreshing to hear your take on heart rate training…

    Charles

    • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by Charles.
    in reply to: Should I slow down to stay within a zone? #20647
    Charles
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    Coaches on the forum can better address your plan.

    Heart rate gets a bad rap. I personally prefer HR for most of my activities.

    It’s important to make sure you perform the maintenance of your heart strap IAW manufacturer instructions, washing it regularly and making sure the battery is in good condition. If not, you can get some very misleading measurements.

    If your watch can read HR from your wrist I would suggest you remove the strap temporarily and see if you are getting similar readings. You can also just do the count manually to be sure.

    I’ve had a couple of instances where I’ve had to transition during a workout from the strap to the wrist. Training Peaks has a “fix” capability that can bridge the readings on your workout log so you can still get a good estimate for TSS of the workout.

    in reply to: Adding More Rest to IM Level-1 Plan #20613
    Charles
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    We’re about the same age.

    I can’t comment on the Tri plans. My experience with the master running plans has been they don’t include enough recovery for us older runners – my run plan continued to add volume and intensity late into the training segment, and there was only one recovery day in in the entire plan.

    The largest factor, beginning at age 60 is the loss of strength, and it accelerates into the 70s. I don’t want to give on on mileage or skip the hard days, so I take some of the 80% and make it easier and a longer, letting the heart rate and intensity drop below the 80/20 recovery run intensities (I use the Sally Edwards temperate run zone).

    This works for me, I finish my runs feeling rested, and ready the next day for whatever workout is on the schedule.

    in reply to: Trust the data? or trust the feel? #20602
    Charles
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    It’s easy to get overwhelmed, especially when we are trying to coach ourselves to a standardized plan. They all need to be “adjusted” from time to time for a huge variety of reasons. Form score is supposed to be negative, so unless it is extreme it’s nothing to worry about – look it up on the Training Peaks help center.

    The 80/20 Training Plans include a pretty good description of each workout objective which is useful to us athletes as we try to track our performance and progress. With that information we can take a step back and use Training Peaks to examine things from the perspective of a coach.

    I have found this video a particularly useful lesson in using the tools to objectively review the data on our own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swLqypKOmHU&t=80s

    Hope that helps.

    in reply to: Lactate Threshold HR Test Duration #20575
    Charles
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    For what its worth, there are just so many variables to testing – temperature, terrain, form, etc. that I cannot control I just do the math. That, and I hate tests…

    I just look at my one-minute maximum heart rate for the last year on Training Peaks and take 90% of that value as my heart rate threshold.

    https://www.firstbeatanalytics.com/en/features/lactate-threshold/#:~:text=Lactate%20Threshold%20identifies%20the%20level,10k%20and%20half%2Dmarathon%20pace.

    Turns out to be close enough the the 80/20 calculators I feel confident in using it for the heart rate zone settings on Training Peaks.

    in reply to: Elliptical Structured Workouts? #20532
    Charles
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    I’m out of my depth on this. I don’t see much on Garmin or Training Peaks and I don’t use an Elliptical. For rowing I get a stroke count and nothing else beyond heart rate and time in zones – I just add a note for distance off of the machine for reference on Training Peaks. (My rower does not interface with Garmin or Training Peaks unlike Zwift and my bike).

    Best option would be to contact the app developer and see if it gives you what you need.

    in reply to: Elliptical Structured Workouts? #20530
    Charles
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    There is a paid App in the connectIQ store that is compatible with your watch. The F3b Elliptical.

    in reply to: Elliptical Structured Workouts? #20526
    Charles
    Participant

    If I recall you are also using the GARMIN FR945.

    You can use Other on Training Peaks. Once you have saved and synced the workout you can find it on your watch: click Start – Options – Training Calendar, and Other will show up. When you click Do Workout you will be presented with a list of activities – Elliptical will appear on your list.

    in reply to: Elliptical Structured Workouts? #20520
    Charles
    Participant

    There are plans that include cross training on the elliptical on Training Peaks, but it sounds like you are looking for something more flexible.

    One option that I use for cross training (I don’t use an elliptical, but I do use an indoor bike and rower) you might try is copy a workout onto your Training Peaks calendar, then convert it to a maximum heart rate based workout – the workout builder will make the adjustments for you – and then reclassify and rename the workout. The workouts will sync to your watch.

    I set up these kind of activities utilizing the Sally Edwards Zones because I believe them to be better suited for mixing activities than the a threshold system. I’m currently doing this to add some volume to the 80/20 Run Faster plan. It’s not perfect, but I don’t have any races on my schedule so mixing hr and power TSS isn’t an issue.

    in reply to: Strength for Master’s plans #20496
    Charles
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    What I got from the coach/author…

    Integrating Strength and Master Plan

    in reply to: Garmin Maximum Workouts Exceeded #20488
    Charles
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    It’s not an issue.

    What you are seeing is the difference between Garmin and Training Peaks. Training Peaks can handle your whole workout plan which can be months of workouts. Garmin, on the other hand only accepts 25 workouts – if you open your Garmin Connect Calendar you will see what workouts are available on your watch.

    Each time you sync your watch any adjustments to installed workouts will be updated.

    I just ignore the message.

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