Curry Gallagher
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David,
Similar question. I switched plans from last year (leveled down due to available hours) and moved to bike power instead of heart rate, but still using run pace. As I start to ramp up and get into the plan, I noticed that the run test is RT11 or 12 and not RT13.
The zone 3 run time in those workouts is 10 minutes instead of 20 minutes. Do I still take the average pace of those 10 minutes as my new zone? It seems like that would give me a faster pace since its only half the time.
Thanks!
Curry
Circling back to this and have some thoughts having reflected on it after my race in June. My race was wetsuit optional and I opted not to wear the wetsuit. I swam much slower than I anticipated and while there are multiple reasons for that, I think a part of it was constantly relying on the shorts as a crutch for my poor swim skills during training.
If I had to do it again, I would NEVER wear the buoyancy shorts during training. As a point of reference, I got to a point where I was wearing them every time I did swim training, mostly because I assumed that I’d be able to wear a wetsuit. I believe it wound up hurting me because I got lazy with my kick/legs.
I would however still practice a few times in open water with and without my wetsuit.
That would be my advice to any poor swimmer, unless they can be 100% certain that their swim will be wetsuit legal.
Thanks for chiming in. Since its the fibula and not the tibia, it is a non-weight bearing bone. Fibula is less common to get stress fractures, thats why i was wondering if anyone on here ever dealt with it. Ortho seems to think that once healed that I should be good to go, but I need to have a more in-depth conversation with him about that to find out exactly what that means/looks like. He may just tell me to speak with the PT at that point, which I will do.
Ortho has said that I am good to bike and swim, so I’ve been keeping up my fitness that way. Lifting is allowed as long as I am not applying pressure to that leg so I’ve modified/eliminated movements that involve pressure on that leg. Not ideal, but better than nothing.
With a 70.3 somewhere from 2-4 weeks from healing, I’m struggling to plan training runs leading up to that. PT will likely have some ideas, but was looking for endurance athlete perspective/experience.
I also have the option of just wearing my roka buoyancy shorts instead of a full wetsuit. Still in back but no need to be as concerned with overheating.
Yeah, I think that I dissipate heat well also (at least running and biking)
I am going to do an OWS tomorrow without a wetsuit (will have a buoy) and see how that goes.
I’ve swam in that quarry with a wetsuit twice now and can compare how I feel after swimming the perimeter (1000 meters)
But I’ll also try to squeeze in a pool swim with a suit too.
Thanks!
Yeah, the temporal aspect for training makes sense.
Have to balance that with traffic on the roads at 9 vs 6 A.M. plus kids sports games to get to.
Liandro,
I also have a cycleops and that makes total sense. I’m on the struggle bus on that thing for harder/longer workouts. So much better out on the road.
So, it sounds like you all are recommending that I purchase a smart trainer. I’ll make sure to blame you all when I break the news to the CFO/wife.
I’m thinking/hoping that next week’s weather will cooperate for me to do that LTHR test outside on the road.
Winoria,
For what its worth, I have been in similar situation in past. I enjoy biking too much to stop it all together just to run train. Swim is a nice recovery workout too.
So what I’ve done in past is work in one bike and one swim per week to my run training. The swim was usually a Monday recovery workout. The bike would be either a Tuesday fast group ride OR a long weekend ride that replaced a long weekend run. Not both bikes in same week though.
I usually worked out 6-8 times per week. When run training I rarely did two a days, not like with triathlon. If you are doing more volume/more workouts, you could add more bikes/swims I suppose. But if you weight train 1-2x per week then time available starts to disappear.
I think one bike and one swim per week is just enough to keep you connected to those disciplines while still trying to train for a marathon.
Good luck at Steelhead. I was very close to doing that but ultimately chose Des Moines over it for a few reasons. Lots of friends doing it.
Thanks guys. I didnt know about tire pressure needing to be exactly the same for the dumb trainer rides. I have a speed sensor on back wheel which i was using in Sufferfest over the winter for virtual watts.
I was a little bit wrong about what I thought my run hr is. Since i did the run test yesterday, i noticed that my 20 minute run HR is only about 10 bpm higher on average than my 15 minute bike, not the 15 to 20 i thought it was. My max hr hit was about 12 bpm higher on the run than the bike.
Is it easier to get HR up outdoors? It seems that way.
Did 6 x 2.5 minute intervals in zone 4 today (CAn4) and was hitting that zone with no issue on an outdoor ride today. Whereas indoors, I’ve struggled a bit to hit let alone stay in the higher hr marks during some of these workouts, not just cause of lagging HR monitor either.
I have to note that I felt much faster and very comfortable in upper zone 2 during that portion of the ride. I feel like I am working much harder on the trainer in upper zone 2. My outdoor cadence seems much higher too. Comparing to outdoor rides last year, I feel much stronger/faster. Looking forward to the upcoming longer zone 2 intervals.
I copy and paste the details of the work our into my google drive and then use my phone (in a ziplock bag) at the pool to follow the workout. Always the fear of dropping phone in water, but small worry.
Then I dont have to print out gobs of paper.
Thanks to you both! I have a latent endocrinology issue and am on a grain free diet due to GI issues. Managed it for years by myself and discussion with primary and a GI doc, but a dietician maybe is the route I should go.
Jut did RM12 today for first time. I decided against it as a brick especially since it would have been the first brick of this training plan.
Did ride in the am and run in the pm. I think it would have been fine if I had done the 30 minutes zone 1 ride, RM12 then finished the ride (as it indicates in the notes on the plan as an option)
RM12 was challenging but I was able to hit all of the Zone 3, 4 and 5 targets both times. I was mid range, not the slow end or fast end of the range.
David – my question in a similar vein/vane (?) is why the longest bike ride in level 2 70.3 training is only 3 hours. I would think that there would be at least one or two 4-5 hour rides.
I know that there are 30/45/60 minute brick runs following a 3 hour ride so there is volume, just surprised there isnt a bit more on bike.
